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Does Mathematical Innumeracy foster superstitions and support the belief in them?
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on May 24, 2011
It's when the system play proponents have their income stream threatened that the level of rancor, venom, poison, condescension, smugness, rudeness, and general acrimony REALLY gets into gear, doesn't it?
Where are you getting your ideas about proponents of system play? How does what others think threaten their income?
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on May 24, 2011
One of Delta Draw's points you are helping to make here is that serious attempts to focus on math or science here are thwarted through redirection. You're correct in that Innumeracy is the subject here, not Grammar.
Unfortunately, the problems here go deeper than this. Up until a few minutes ago I was working on a reply to one of RL's posts wherein I made a case that he has recently acquired a "ghost writer." When I finally hit the "submit" button, I got an error message and soon discovered that RL's post had disappeared! Fortunately, I saved a copy of his post, which I had spell checked and pointed out that his writing is not indicative of someone with a "condition" that causes "butchering" of grammar. Maybe I've forgotten how to navigate the site; can you find this recent post of RL's? If it has been "removed" I wonder if RL will "fess up" to being the author? Do you recognize it rdgrnr?
---------------------------------JimmyWhen the subject matter tossed into the arena pretends to contain a genuine element of discovery by collecting information from the feedback of others, turns into an attack when a counter viewpoint is made well in my book their scheme has been exposed. While I view and read the many post I often gauge the sincerity of those who claim to process knowledge the rest of us may be lacking, it is very easy to spot a phony. Don't piXX down my back and tell me it's raining. A good measure of the level of education a person has is grammar. This is by my own standards is a area which I find myself lacking when writing.I have a condition which manifests its potential as a butchery of proper structure and form. This I feel leads others to assume I am just another talking head which I am not. My posting of scores was factual and may seem tacky to many but was an attempt to validate my point of view. Does this mean I am perfect and beyond reproach, NO. Many of the topics which fall into this sort of category are made by people gifted with gab and not much more. People who love to debate often have little intelligence but are well read. The opinions they express in general are not their own but a collection of viewpoints they have picked up from others and they often use this solicited knowledge as if it were their own. Lets examine the topic at hand. Is the lack of math skills the deciding factor in what one allows? My answer is, "I don't know." To say yes then I pretend to know how everyone makes their decisions. If I say no then I must know the same. If I say sometimes it would be the best answer I could give based on direct knowledge gained from a very small sample. Because of my personal observations I stated that a third choice was needed which lead to an attack by one of these people who pretends to be smart. The more I learn the more this leads me to think I don't know anything well enough to give a definitive answer. However if one asks an opinion then I will give them what I think because they asked. Again how they treat this exchange exposes their true intent.Mockery, smears, contempt, belittled, ect... all are true signs of what a person's goal is. Fighting fire with fire may work for forest fires but has no use in these exchanges which even I have been guilty of. Those who think math can solve all our problems are wrong in my opinion and those who think all problems are caused by lack of math skills I think the same way. It's just not true. Most don't want to understand they want to force their understanding on others having judged what the other person understands as being fallacious. What person who truly understands the odds for a PB jackpot would invest a dollar to win it. We all have our fallacies. So I would ask whose fallacies are most fallacious the one who does it blindly or the one who knows but plays anyway.PS. intelligence cannot be learned from a book, knowledge however can.RLJimmy: "Up until a few minutes ago I was working on a reply to one of RL's posts wherein I made a case that he has recently acquired a "ghost writer."
Get a grip; this is a message board forum.
Jimmy: "When I finally hit the "submit" button, I got an error message and soon discovered that RL's post had disappeared! Fortunately, I saved a copy of his post, which I had spell checked "
Maybe RL deleted it, a Moderator did, you imagine it existed, or you're pulling a scam. It really doesn't matter what your point was because the post no longer exists. Chalk it up as more of your time wasted on useless information.
By the way, this might be a forum ethics violation and even though I usually disagree with you, I'd hate to see you banned.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on May 24, 2011
Jimmy: "Up until a few minutes ago I was working on a reply to one of RL's posts wherein I made a case that he has recently acquired a "ghost writer."
Get a grip; this is a message board forum.
Jimmy: "When I finally hit the "submit" button, I got an error message and soon discovered that RL's post had disappeared! Fortunately, I saved a copy of his post, which I had spell checked "
Maybe RL deleted it, a Moderator did, you imagine it existed, or you're pulling a scam. It really doesn't matter what your point was because the post no longer exists. Chalk it up as more of your time wasted on useless information.
By the way, this might be a forum ethics violation and even though I usually disagree with you, I'd hate to see you banned.
Jimmy
Thank you for saving a copy for all to read, and no I did not remove it. In my defence I admitted to having
dsylexia which it seems to me that those that would like others to consider how correct their understanding of all
things is, seem to have read over this statement. I could write my post using another tool, edit them correcting
errors in grammar before I copy and paste but I don't. When you see one of my post it has not undergone this
type of editing, I don't use spellcheck either because I use my mistakes as a learning tool. I so often feel like a
race car with a flat tire but I can live with that. I really wish you would have saved your counterparts quote where
it was said that "the best part of me ran down my mothers leg." I may lack the ability to express things in written
form or express my views in a manner others can easily understand but rest assured my comprehension is intact.
I also want you to know that I can see through you like a peice of glass.
I believe that Thomas Edison was sent home from school becuse he was too stupid to learn. Albert Einstein
was called slow by his teachers. George Patten had to have his wife rewrite his letters. Charles Schwab has
trouble reading and writting, these are just a few that are/were dyslexic. I have in my life overcome many
obstacles and have accomplished much in many different fields. So go ahead and laugh, show the rest who
may be in doubt the depth of character you possess. I would also like you to make a copy of this just in case
it gets deleted if for no other reason you can point out my spelling mistakes.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by JosephusMinimus on May 24, 2011
Hi Pumpi: Thanks for the reply. I suspect a century from now if things remain intact science will be laughing at science and medicine of today much the way the science community jokes about those of earlier centuries. Practices such as bleeding patients weren't that long ago in passing from the vogue. And a lot of top scientists, one of them considered the leading scientist of his time, believed heavier than air manned flight was impossible. One of them made a considerable, smug public and highly publicized pronouncement saying so a few months before the bicycle repairmen made their first flight. If they'd had a modern FAA copy of "Theory of Flight" they'd have called it superstition, most likely.
About the same time a consortium of international scientists pronounced that science had it pretty well wrapped up in scientific matters, that all they had to do now was tie up a few loose ends.
Times have changed and a lot has happened since then, but the general run of scientists [not the ones actually doing science - the ones who study the work of those who do science and say it back and forth to one another as though they'd done it themselves] hasn't changed.
Science is still observation, formulation of theory, testing theory, revising theory as a result of testing, re-testing. It isn't reading books about the accomplishments and discoveries of people [including the Wright brothers] who actually did science, no matter how many, savoring and memorizing it, and saying it to other people under the disguise of being a scientist.
I'd personally lean to the view that superstition is the concrete belief in the absolute truth of assertions by anyone, scientists, mystics, whomever, in matters outside the range of our own experiences.
By that definition math is superstition-neutral, as nearly as it can be.
Thanks for your observations and comments in your reply.
"Times have changed and a lot has happened since then, but the general run of scientists [not the ones actually doing science - the ones who study the work of those who do science and say it back and forth to one another as though they'd done it themselves] hasn't changed."
This is just one example of your obvious disdain for those of us who work, or have worked, in the sciences. May I ask just what important contributions you are making, or have made, to the advancement of civilization? All we know about you is that you recently decided to donate to the members of LotteryPost your far reaching knowledge of LotteryPost from your refuge on an unpaved road in Texas. Are you doing original scientific research out there in the boondocks, so that some day, the rest of us will have even MORE to pass around to each other? Or, are you writing a book about the foibles of the posters at LotteryPost? If you've been taking notes, you surely have sufficient material for at least a term paper. Ever since you arrived, when you haven't been chastising or trying to discredit people like me, you've been popping up everywhere, acting as a self appointed cheerleader, counseling, encouraging, and inspiring. There doesn't appear to be a post obtuse, arcane, or silly enough to receive criticism from you - unless of course, it attempts to deliver some of that unoriginal math and science you so abhor to the apparent "protected class" residing here, the system players!
So, just what is it that you do, Joey?
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RL-RANDOMLOGIC,
"Thank you for saving a copy for all to read, and no I did not remove it. In my defence I admitted to having..."
Would you please post a link; I can't find it!
BTW, I was not belittling your writing but suggesting that all it needed was spell-checked and if read aloud gave no hint that the author could not "sound out" words or sentences. My critique is to accuse you of claiming a disability that you show little evidence of having! Your posting above that I inserted in my reply to rdgnr, if it is NOT the result of collaboration with another member, demonstrates that your English is better than most of what can be found here. So, what's going on here?
--Jimmy4164
"I also want you to know that I can see through you like a peice of glass."
What is it you think you see? If it's anything other than what I've told you, then it's wrong. Seriously, what do you think you see?
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Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on May 23, 2011
The man in this link was the most intelligent person, I have ever known or work with. Never once did I hear him talk down to someone or belittle someone, due to lack of education or understanding the point, he was addressing.
CB
I agree but I would not consider him a mathematician. There are many people who have high math aptitudes
and I am not refurring to these people. The mathematicians that I have known had jobs where all they do is
math. Many of these people were like hired guns and went from project to project and the ones I knew worked
in aeronautics and areospace fields.
They were always stressed out and and to stay totally focused. Once my uncle had retired he became quite
humorous and spent the rest of his life working on projects that had no real value. He became almost childlike
and a bit of a prankster. He built several math based optical illusion devices as a hobby . I remember a device
he built that seemed to have many curved surfaces. I was fine until I picked it up and looked it over, not a single
curved surface anywhere.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on May 24, 2011
RL-RANDOMLOGIC,
"Thank you for saving a copy for all to read, and no I did not remove it. In my defence I admitted to having..."
Would you please post a link; I can't find it!
BTW, I was not belittling your writing but suggesting that all it needed was spell-checked and if read aloud gave no hint that the author could not "sound out" words or sentences. My critique is to accuse you of claiming a disability that you show little evidence of having! Your posting above that I inserted in my reply to rdgnr, if it is NOT the result of collaboration with another member, demonstrates that your English is better than most of what can be found here. So, what's going on here?
--Jimmy4164
"I also want you to know that I can see through you like a peice of glass."
What is it you think you see? If it's anything other than what I've told you, then it's wrong. Seriously, what do you think you see?
Much has been deleted and edited.
DD
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on May 24, 2011
RL-RANDOMLOGIC,
"Thank you for saving a copy for all to read, and no I did not remove it. In my defence I admitted to having..."
Would you please post a link; I can't find it!
BTW, I was not belittling your writing but suggesting that all it needed was spell-checked and if read aloud gave no hint that the author could not "sound out" words or sentences. My critique is to accuse you of claiming a disability that you show little evidence of having! Your posting above that I inserted in my reply to rdgnr, if it is NOT the result of collaboration with another member, demonstrates that your English is better than most of what can be found here. So, what's going on here?
--Jimmy4164
"I also want you to know that I can see through you like a peice of glass."
What is it you think you see? If it's anything other than what I've told you, then it's wrong. Seriously, what do you think you see?
Jimmy
Many of my post take me an hour or more to write. I have with instruction learned to conceal what I consider
my biggest weakness which in my eyes places me just above illiteracy. I was found to be dyslexic upon entry
into the airforce where I received help. I went from c's and d's in HS math and english to making the Deans List
my first semester in college. Most of the writting skills found here will fall around the 8th to 9th grade level.
Some may just be being lazy and not care which is fine with me because I don't stick out as bad. The vocabulary
a person uses is also a good measure to the level of education. Here I suffer the most because I have almost
no ability to connect sounds and letters. The more uncommon the word and the less I see it used the harder it
is for me to spell so I avoid using them. I don't have this problem when reading except when reading aloud. I
often use different spellings of the same word hoping that others will think the incorrect one is a typo. When I
first tested for dyslexica I fell into the severely dyslexic catagory so your comment above means much to me.
What I meant in the second statement was you seem to get off by continuesly insisting that people who play
the lottery using some sort of system suffer from a fallacy which is rooted in not having the nessary math skills
or understanding. Those who do have the math skills then must suffer some sort of psychological disorder by
trying to out perform the odds. If a person does come out ahead then they are fooling themselves thinking that
they somehow had a possitive effect when it was a nothing but chance. You futher attempt to endorse your
beliefs that you are correct by offering a backtest to show that the same results do indeed fall within the expected
range of chance. Those who oppose this view are then made to look as though they are self delusional and hard
headed not wanting to admit they were wrong. When I say that you are wrong, I am not saying the math is wrong
I am saying your motives are wrong.
Lets say Jack player plays $20.00 QP's twice a week for the last 20 years with an ROI of 32%. Bill player spends the
same amount on SP's and has a ROI of 55% for the same peroid. From this some might say that Bill's SP's were much
better then Jack's QP's but this may not be correct. What if one of Bill's SP's accounted for 35% of his total meaning that
Jack's QP's performed better on average. Both of these should be considered bad investments and both would have
faired better if they had not played. You have stated you play a few bucks a week as a form of entertainment with no
real expectations and that's a good way to play because you never know you might hit the big one in the very next
draw. I could jump all over your choice from the prespective of ROI and you could defend your choice as being money
spent for fun. I think to this point we both agree but this is where we part. Because I believe I can through a analysis
of the data improve my play you seem to draw a line in the sand and demand a mathematical provable series of steps
to that show this can be done. I offered to post scans of my tickets before my post was locked and over the course
of nine plays, around 130 total tickets I managed to win around $400.00. Several people got copies of these tickets
which I could have them confirm this and they would do it but you would still not believe. For much of the time
between then and now you have continued to trash my system post and belittle me and for what reason? I offered
another method for anyone to use any way they wanted, Gave away many copies of my old dos software, built custom
apps for several others, spent hours each day answering emails. Tried to help many people with tips and tricks that
I had found over the years while all the time having to fight off your attacks. I have met many good people and picked
up a few dozen friends even if I never meet them in person. The odds of winning a lottery place it well into the realm
of fantasy. With this in mind what is wrong with a few people getting togeather trying to help each other win. I am
getting ready to leave LP for good this time and except for comments and attacks of three people I have enjoyed
my time here.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on May 25, 2011
Jimmy
Many of my post take me an hour or more to write. I have with instruction learned to conceal what I consider
my biggest weakness which in my eyes places me just above illiteracy. I was found to be dyslexic upon entry
into the airforce where I received help. I went from c's and d's in HS math and english to making the Deans List
my first semester in college. Most of the writting skills found here will fall around the 8th to 9th grade level.
Some may just be being lazy and not care which is fine with me because I don't stick out as bad. The vocabulary
a person uses is also a good measure to the level of education. Here I suffer the most because I have almost
no ability to connect sounds and letters. The more uncommon the word and the less I see it used the harder it
is for me to spell so I avoid using them. I don't have this problem when reading except when reading aloud. I
often use different spellings of the same word hoping that others will think the incorrect one is a typo. When I
first tested for dyslexica I fell into the severely dyslexic catagory so your comment above means much to me.
What I meant in the second statement was you seem to get off by continuesly insisting that people who play
the lottery using some sort of system suffer from a fallacy which is rooted in not having the nessary math skills
or understanding. Those who do have the math skills then must suffer some sort of psychological disorder by
trying to out perform the odds. If a person does come out ahead then they are fooling themselves thinking that
they somehow had a possitive effect when it was a nothing but chance. You futher attempt to endorse your
beliefs that you are correct by offering a backtest to show that the same results do indeed fall within the expected
range of chance. Those who oppose this view are then made to look as though they are self delusional and hard
headed not wanting to admit they were wrong. When I say that you are wrong, I am not saying the math is wrong
I am saying your motives are wrong.
Lets say Jack player plays $20.00 QP's twice a week for the last 20 years with an ROI of 32%. Bill player spends the
same amount on SP's and has a ROI of 55% for the same peroid. From this some might say that Bill's SP's were much
better then Jack's QP's but this may not be correct. What if one of Bill's SP's accounted for 35% of his total meaning that
Jack's QP's performed better on average. Both of these should be considered bad investments and both would have
faired better if they had not played. You have stated you play a few bucks a week as a form of entertainment with no
real expectations and that's a good way to play because you never know you might hit the big one in the very next
draw. I could jump all over your choice from the prespective of ROI and you could defend your choice as being money
spent for fun. I think to this point we both agree but this is where we part. Because I believe I can through a analysis
of the data improve my play you seem to draw a line in the sand and demand a mathematical provable series of steps
to that show this can be done. I offered to post scans of my tickets before my post was locked and over the course
of nine plays, around 130 total tickets I managed to win around $400.00. Several people got copies of these tickets
which I could have them confirm this and they would do it but you would still not believe. For much of the time
between then and now you have continued to trash my system post and belittle me and for what reason? I offered
another method for anyone to use any way they wanted, Gave away many copies of my old dos software, built custom
apps for several others, spent hours each day answering emails. Tried to help many people with tips and tricks that
I had found over the years while all the time having to fight off your attacks. I have met many good people and picked
up a few dozen friends even if I never meet them in person. The odds of winning a lottery place it well into the realm
of fantasy. With this in mind what is wrong with a few people getting togeather trying to help each other win. I am
getting ready to leave LP for good this time and except for comments and attacks of three people I have enjoyed
my time here.
RL
Sorry to hear you're planning on leaving, RL. I've enjoyed your posts. You'll be missed.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on May 24, 2011
"Times have changed and a lot has happened since then, but the general run of scientists [not the ones actually doing science - the ones who study the work of those who do science and say it back and forth to one another as though they'd done it themselves] hasn't changed."
This is just one example of your obvious disdain for those of us who work, or have worked, in the sciences. May I ask just what important contributions you are making, or have made, to the advancement of civilization? All we know about you is that you recently decided to donate to the members of LotteryPost your far reaching knowledge of LotteryPost from your refuge on an unpaved road in Texas. Are you doing original scientific research out there in the boondocks, so that some day, the rest of us will have even MORE to pass around to each other? Or, are you writing a book about the foibles of the posters at LotteryPost? If you've been taking notes, you surely have sufficient material for at least a term paper. Ever since you arrived, when you haven't been chastising or trying to discredit people like me, you've been popping up everywhere, acting as a self appointed cheerleader, counseling, encouraging, and inspiring. There doesn't appear to be a post obtuse, arcane, or silly enough to receive criticism from you - unless of course, it attempts to deliver some of that unoriginal math and science you so abhor to the apparent "protected class" residing here, the system players!
So, just what is it that you do, Joey?
Hi Jimmy:
I'm just an anonymous stranger on the internet who spent several decades working in close proximity to people a lot like yourself. Enough years to get an intimate knowledge of everything I needed to know about them. They weren't a majority among similarly educated and similarly employed people, but most of us working in those environments possessed enough of a piece of it to recognize it in ourselves without being glad of it being there. But a greater percentage than a person might hope incorporated the whole package of what the rest recognized in ourselves and didn't respect, didn't like, didn't value.
As much as possible most of us did the professional/career equivalents of clicking the 'block this member' button on those sorts.
As for what I'm doing now, it's none of your affair, none of your business, nothing you need concern yourself with. I make no claims about my accomplishments, no claims about what I might accomplish. I can say with the certainty gained from watching ducks walk and watching ducks talk throughout a life time that whatever I might do and whatever I might yet accomplish, it won't be exceeded and it won't be diminished by anything likely to be done by you, nor by any of your intellectual, emotional, philosophical, spiritual, psychological kinfolk.
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josephus
I just finished running analysis on the writing skill levels of several LP posters and hope you don't mind.
You rock dude, Your skill level confirmed my suspicions 12.95 to 13.6 which is about double that of the
average posters I tested.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on May 25, 2011
josephus
I just finished running analysis on the writing skill levels of several LP posters and hope you don't mind.
You rock dude, Your skill level confirmed my suspicions 12.95 to 13.6 which is about double that of the
average posters I tested.
RL
Luck of the draw, RL. The gene pool scramble gave you traits, aptitudes, abilities in one direction, gave me different ones, gave everyone else theirs. What comes easy for me comes with a lot more difficulty for others, and what comes easy for them might be a lot more difficult for me.
Whatever we were lucky enough to carry into this life doesn't amount to a virtue. Just luck, pure and simple. But we're all lucky in different ways.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on May 21, 2011
(http://www.math.temple.edu/~paulos/books.html)
INNUMERACY - MATHEMATICAL ILLITERACY AND ITS CONSEQUENCES , Farrar, Straus, and Giroux (Hill and Wang division), 1989.
-- INNUMERACY is an examination of some of the consequences in everyday life of mathematical illiteracy. These consequences - confused personal decisions, muddled governmental policies, even an increased susceptibility to pseudoscience - are not as visible as are those of illiteracy or general cultural ignorance. Unlike the latter failings, however, innumeracy often afflicts intelligent, well-educated people, the kind of people who can understand the most complicated of legal discussions, the most nuanced of emotional interchanges, but whose eyes glaze over at the mere mention of a number or a probability. Topics addressed include stock scams, parapsychological claims, medical testing, insurance frauds, sports records, sex discrimination, coincidences and chance encounters.
"To combat [innumeracy] John Allen Paulos has concocted the perfect vaccine: this book, which is in many ways better than an entire high school math education! Our society would be unimaginably different if the average person truly understood the ideas in this marvelous and important book. It is probably hopelessly optimistic to dream this way, but I hope that Innumeracy might help launch a revolution in math education that would do for innumeracy what Sabin and Salk did for polio." -- Douglas Hofstadter, author of Godel, Escher, and Bach
Beautifully stated Jimmy. From a purely mathematical point of view, I believe we are all "nuts" for ever playing P3, P4, etc.
I love what Albert Einstein said when he was asked how to beat roulette. His reply, "CHEAT!"
However, some of the folks here on LP do quite well. But, they observe PATTERNS and not math or statistics.
Sure wish Gauss was still alive. He would have the mother of all systems.
Ephesians 3:20
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on May 25, 2011
Jimmy
Many of my post take me an hour or more to write. I have with instruction learned to conceal what I consider
my biggest weakness which in my eyes places me just above illiteracy. I was found to be dyslexic upon entry
into the airforce where I received help. I went from c's and d's in HS math and english to making the Deans List
my first semester in college. Most of the writting skills found here will fall around the 8th to 9th grade level.
Some may just be being lazy and not care which is fine with me because I don't stick out as bad. The vocabulary
a person uses is also a good measure to the level of education. Here I suffer the most because I have almost
no ability to connect sounds and letters. The more uncommon the word and the less I see it used the harder it
is for me to spell so I avoid using them. I don't have this problem when reading except when reading aloud. I
often use different spellings of the same word hoping that others will think the incorrect one is a typo. When I
first tested for dyslexica I fell into the severely dyslexic catagory so your comment above means much to me.
What I meant in the second statement was you seem to get off by continuesly insisting that people who play
the lottery using some sort of system suffer from a fallacy which is rooted in not having the nessary math skills
or understanding. Those who do have the math skills then must suffer some sort of psychological disorder by
trying to out perform the odds. If a person does come out ahead then they are fooling themselves thinking that
they somehow had a possitive effect when it was a nothing but chance. You futher attempt to endorse your
beliefs that you are correct by offering a backtest to show that the same results do indeed fall within the expected
range of chance. Those who oppose this view are then made to look as though they are self delusional and hard
headed not wanting to admit they were wrong. When I say that you are wrong, I am not saying the math is wrong
I am saying your motives are wrong.
Lets say Jack player plays $20.00 QP's twice a week for the last 20 years with an ROI of 32%. Bill player spends the
same amount on SP's and has a ROI of 55% for the same peroid. From this some might say that Bill's SP's were much
better then Jack's QP's but this may not be correct. What if one of Bill's SP's accounted for 35% of his total meaning that
Jack's QP's performed better on average. Both of these should be considered bad investments and both would have
faired better if they had not played. You have stated you play a few bucks a week as a form of entertainment with no
real expectations and that's a good way to play because you never know you might hit the big one in the very next
draw. I could jump all over your choice from the prespective of ROI and you could defend your choice as being money
spent for fun. I think to this point we both agree but this is where we part. Because I believe I can through a analysis
of the data improve my play you seem to draw a line in the sand and demand a mathematical provable series of steps
to that show this can be done. I offered to post scans of my tickets before my post was locked and over the course
of nine plays, around 130 total tickets I managed to win around $400.00. Several people got copies of these tickets
which I could have them confirm this and they would do it but you would still not believe. For much of the time
between then and now you have continued to trash my system post and belittle me and for what reason? I offered
another method for anyone to use any way they wanted, Gave away many copies of my old dos software, built custom
apps for several others, spent hours each day answering emails. Tried to help many people with tips and tricks that
I had found over the years while all the time having to fight off your attacks. I have met many good people and picked
up a few dozen friends even if I never meet them in person. The odds of winning a lottery place it well into the realm
of fantasy. With this in mind what is wrong with a few people getting togeather trying to help each other win. I am
getting ready to leave LP for good this time and except for comments and attacks of three people I have enjoyed
my time here.
RL
By the odd "spacing" of your sentences, it appears you use some editor other than the LP editor. The LP editor does have spell check (first line of tools->2nd from left. "ABC with a checkmark"). I would say that is all you need. Sure you might have a few homophone errors or but otherwise normally acceptable posts.
Nothing wrong with 8th grade level writing. Joey at 12th probably reaching the upper limits of the average poster here. Ran a Delta Dawn Draw example, came out 13th, maybe higher. While admirable in some circles, way out of range for most people at LP.
Stick around a little longer - you can always find an extra hour to post something.
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Quote: Originally posted by truecritic on May 25, 2011
By the odd "spacing" of your sentences, it appears you use some editor other than the LP editor. The LP editor does have spell check (first line of tools->2nd from left. "ABC with a checkmark"). I would say that is all you need. Sure you might have a few homophone errors or but otherwise normally acceptable posts.
Nothing wrong with 8th grade level writing. Joey at 12th probably reaching the upper limits of the average poster here. Ran a Delta Dawn Draw example, came out 13th, maybe higher. While admirable in some circles, way out of range for most people at LP.
Stick around a little longer - you can always find an extra hour to post something.
truecritic
No, straight lp editor. I don't make any adjustments to the standard settings and what you see is just as
it is typed. I don't use spell check for a reason. While I do have special software the uses algrorithms to
score my writting I only use them when practicing. Spell check is like cheating and I would only be cheating
myself. Josephus, I believe would score at least 3 full points higher if he was trying as I have found that
most people in casual writting fall off by this amount. I would say he has a bachelors degree or very close
to it. I am glad that you too have mentioned that my writting skills are ok. My bigest problem is that I can
never reach the point that I feel I have explained myself so that others can understand clearly what I say.
I tested many posters today and they ranged from as low as 1.2 and Josephus had the highest score.
I ran three different post that I made and they scored from around 4.5 to 8.3. Many of the post can't be
scored for various reasons including formats so I try to find civil comments that are not heated because
these post drop to the bottom of the scale. The fewer words one uses to form a sentence the higher the
score and 18 to 20 is prime. Many of the posters seem to have never had any formal trainning for posting
sicence related post because these are normally written in a passive manner. I did a couple DD and they
scored around 4.
RL