California and Florida winners should learn from mistakes made by Tennessee winners
Godspeed, John and Lisa Robinson of Munford, Tenn.
The 50-somethings may have been Average Joes a day ago, but not after Friday morning when they revealed themselves on national television as big time winners in this week's record-breaking lottery.
The Robinsons' decision to fly to New York City to appear on NBC's "Today" show several hours before claiming their stake in the Powerball jackpot left some lottery veterans uneasy about the couple's exposure.
"It's a good example of what not to do," said Jason Kurland, a New York attorney who has represented several jackpot winners.
"I definitely would not have recommended that — very ill-advised for a number of reasons," Karen Gerstner, a Houston attorney who has worked with 48 lottery winners, said in an email. "Now, every long-lost relative and friend will approach them with a sob story, asking for money, and all the 'financial crooks' will come after them."
The Robinsons, along with their adult daughter, Tiffany Robinson, and Memphis attorney Joe Townsend and his daughter, Eileen Townsend, appeared on the morning news show where John Robinson pulled a folded lottery ticket from his shirt pocket and told a national TV audience that he was one of three winners of Wednesday's world-record $1.6 billion Powerball jackpot.
"Shocking," said Danielle Mayoras, a Michigan estate planning attorney and co-author of the bookTrial & Heirs. "Putting it out there on the 'Today' show before you even make the claim, before you even get everything in order, was extremely surprising. It really put the lottery ticket as well as the family at risk."
To collect their riches — a lump sum of nearly $328 million after taxes — the Robinsons needed to go the lottery office in Nashville, which they did after leaving New York.
"Flying back and forth to New York when you have to submit the ticket and make the claim in Tennessee may not be the best idea," Mayoras told Yahoo News. "Whether you're carrying around a Powerball-winning ticket or not, we all know when you go to a big city there's things that can happen. People lose things, and traveling and everything else."
"Today" anchor Savannah Guthrie even seemed surprised by the Robinsons' desire to make a big splash.
"Why, though, did you decide not to go to the lottery officials yet and come to us first?" Guthrie asked during the interview.
"Well actually, it was his idea," replied John Robinson, pointing to his attorney, who was standing behind him.
Townsend, a longtime Memphis bankruptcy and divorce lawyer, explained how he enlisted his daughter, a local writer who covers the Memphis arts scene, to call NBC and get them on the "Today" show. Eileen Townsend described how she Google-searched NBC's phone number and talked her way past the switchboard.
"They were rightly a little bit suspicious," Eileen said. "We talked through it and decided to make it happen."
Townsend, wearing a suit and bright orange tie, said the Manhattan media appearance only 33 hours after the lottery drawing was his way of trying to control the Robinsons' story.
"I think the American public wants to hear from them," Townsend said on the show. "Even though they want to be private after this is over, they want to, you know, let the public know that they're the winners."
But the publicity plan appears to have backfired somewhat. Reporters raced to Munford, a bedroom community of 6,000 north of Memphis, to interview the Robinsons' friends and family.
Neighbor Mary Sue Smith told the Memphis Commerical Appeal that Lisa Robinson, 53, had called after stepping off the "Today" set to request a favor.
"They were asking us to put up some 'No trespassing' signs in their yard," Smith said.
Within hours, a handful of people had shared a 2014 family photo from Lisa Robinson's Facebook page.
"This is the family in Munford that won the Power Ball Jackpot," a woman in Mississippi wrote on Facebook. "CONGRATS TO YOU."
The City of Munford also celebrated the Robinsons' windfall with a number of posts on its Facebook page. While most residents congratulated the family, a few couldn't resist the opportunity to offer suggestions.
"So happy for you," one woman wrote in a comment. "Sorry, can't help myself — please remember Tipton County Animal Shelter can always use a helping hand. Many wonderful furbabies there."
Kurland, who has represented winners of $254 million and $336 million Powerball jackpots, said he advises his clients to scrub their social media accounts and have a plan to disappear for several days once they claim their fortunes. But John Robinson, a warehouse supervisor, and Lisa Robinson, who works at a doctor's office, both said they planned to be at their jobs Monday morning.
"The rest of your life, people are going to be looking for handouts and asking questions and trying to hit you up for charities and investment opportunities," Kurland told Yahoo News. "I think it's going to hit them hard when they realize how famous, at least for 15 minutes, they've now become, when they could have controlled that a little bit more."
The Robinsons, who made it back to Tennessee to submit their winning ticket Friday afternoon, could have taken up to six months to redeem their prize. Tennessee Lottery rules also permit jackpots to be claimed in the name of a trust for more privacy.
"The short time between the day you win and the day you claim is your last chance at any normalcy," said Kurland, who offers a checklist of first steps on TheLotteryLawyer.com. "So you're better off sitting back and thinking about what you want to do, how to properly effectuate your estate planning, rather than parading around on the 'Today' show."
At a press conference Friday afternoon in Nashville, John Robinson, a warehouse supervisor, and his wife, who works at a doctor's office, said they hoped the family could now enjoy their good fortune in peace.
"We're common people," John, 58, said. "We're just like y'all are."
"... and ask that our privacy is respected," Lisa added.
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How do you expect to request privacy and the first thing you do is go to the TODAY show and now every Tom, Dick and Harry knows where you live?? The vultures will be out in no time! Remains to be seen but they absolutely made a mistake going to the media. At the end of the day it's their choice to make.
Honestly,I do not see anything wrong with Tennesse Jackpot winners!
They wanted to use the opportunity to be well known people in the globe.They knew the whole World was asking one question "Who are the most luckiest People on earth?"
Amateurs. Uninformed amateurs. We may witness the next Jack Whitaker/Billie Bob Harrell.
They honestly think they are going to be able to keep their jobs?! Look at what happened to Brad Duke; and he didn't win nearly as much money as they did.
Good luck to these people. They may want to consider getting a different attorney. Lol.
I agree, broadcasting this to the world may only bring heartache and misery. Money doesn't really buy you happiness, rather buys you freedom. That freedom may be unnecessary hampered.
Oi! They need to dump that attorney asap and get some real advice. Call up WE or Caprock or one of the other no-commission, non-bank affiliated, non-investment house affiliated Family Office firms. You are in the big leagues now folks, you don't want to use the lawyer that helped with Nana's will or the one that you used to sue the doctor that screwed up the operation on your crotch. You need a senior partner in one of the big top nationwide firms.
And I get that going to work is what you've always done but really it isn't worth your time anymore. Ultra conservatively invested you both essentially have a $1700/hour job forever. And reasonably invested there is no reason you can't bring in 2x or 3x that amount. Is your time better spent planning, educating yourself, and executing that or spending your day at whatever $20-25/hour job you had before you won? I know this country fetishizes the idea of lazy good for nothing rich people who only exist to be taxed but properly running a fortune the size of the one you now have is more then enough work for a person. And it can be very good, emotionally rewarding work at that.
Personally I'd love to create jobs for all my friends and family. Sure I'd be out to make more money but if I could do that while at the same time providing good jobs with great pay and benefits to folks I know I'd find that very rewarding.
A cry for attention from Them and the CEO of Tn,,she wants all she can get.If all of the US knew what she was doing to Tn people she wouldnt be very liked at all.She is hated here.She is a crook and scamming bad person.
The Uninformed should at least have a GOOD ATTORNEY.
Yikes! That whole situation sounds like a disaster.
Attorney gave them some bad advice. How soon before Joe Townsend and his daughter Eileen end up with most of the Robinson's money?
What lawyer never heard of claiming a huge lottery win thru a trust? They need to fire him and get another lawyer with common sense. They need to move and get unlisted numbers. They can forget privacy, normalcy after announcing to the world they just won the lottery.
What's up with that lawyer anyway?
These people hired a lawyer and followed his advice which proves even if you hire a lawyer you still have to do some of the thinking yourself.
Their attorney is nuts
NOT the way to stay out of the "limelight"
In Pennsylvania they will still publish your name if you use a trust to claim your prize!
IDK about TN ............
Easy to see their attorney's motivation $$$$$$$ Cha Ching!
He's in every picture I've seen, smiling like HE won the PB lol He ain't looking out for them, that's for certain.
Like the Cheshire Cat...
Lol, that's a puurfect analogy
Since they appear to be so kind, I wonder how many charities will come knocking soon?
Reminds me of the movie "The Jerk" when Steve Martin is handing out cash to all the crazy charities. "Cat Juggling, I heard about this. How much do you want?" ha ha.
In the end...."All I need, this ashtray, this paddle ball, the remote control and this lamp, that's all I need"
"Someone is shooting all the oil cans!! They hate oil cans!!
Something weird about all this ...
I'm sorry but you are very wrong.
You just win the lottery or in this case the most publicized Jackpot ever in history.
And your first instinct is to go to the Today show? And not claim your prize?
Not only are the prize winners idiots, but so is their attorney and the attorney's daughter.
If you watch the video, the hosts of the Today Show (who are puzzled) make it clear that the winners went to great lenghts to contact the Today Show.
AND what kind of attorney gets their daughter involved in a client's legal business?
The Today show clip I saw had the female host saying 'ya know I have relatives in Tennessee, I could be your cousin!'
So even the Today show HOST was trying to hit them up for money!!!!
She was just making a joke. You should watch the entire video and "read between the lines". The folks at Today think these people are idiots too.
you kinda missed the point, even someplace they 'trusted' joked about hitting them up for money. Imagine what professionals will do to them?
Yes, I get you. That's what she was trying to tell them.
If my lawyer gave me that advice I would have FIRED him on the spot. BIG mistake folks I'm glad for them but something tells me we haven't heard the last of these folks.!
No Doubt! The lottery curse hits big time.
The winners should take up to six months or a year before getting the ticket validated.
Jason Kurland, The Lottery Lawyer, can be found on You Tube.
The winners should interview at least three lawyers. The first one will seem to be the best fit but go ahead and interview two more. Or more than three.
I have posted on many past topics about hiring legal, financial, health counselors. You have the money now. Try to be smart about your new life.
www.lotterypost.com and www.usamega.com should be a daily read for lottery winners.
I just read about a past lottery winner of $112 mil who recently declared bankruptcy. She split the jackpot with her Dad and brother but was living like she had the whole amount to spend. Sad, very sad.
Hopefully when the other 2 winners come forward these people will drop from the limelight.
And everyone can leave them alone and let them enjoy their winnings.
That is exactly what will happen, too. Congratulations to the family, but people will not care or remember them in a couple of months anyway. Only the folks who are after their money will care and that was gonna happen anyway. Live and let live is my opinion on this one.
Could it be that the lawyer gave this advice in order to get publicity for himself?
That's what I'm thinking. But anyone with common sense will steer clear of this attorney
Yeah. You're talking about Cynthia Stafford. I thought she'd be smart with the money because she seemed to have a good head on her shoulders. I feel sorry for the kids.
After the bad move they made, I doubt they will fade anytime soon as potential 'targets' to everyone with an outstretched hand. No, I think they will be hounded for a very long time.
The other two winners will probably make their claims through layers of trusts and/or LLCs. It has only been 3 days, but I hope they are getting their ducks in a row before making their claims.
I read somewhere that if your State requires that your name be published, you can go to court and ask a judge to grant you permission to remain anonymous because you feel that your life would be in jeopardy if revealed. If there was ever a time to feel vulnerable, I would think it would be making a claim for $328,000,000! The lottery can't release your name if a judge grants you permission.
I'd go live in Amish country for awhile. They definitely haven't heard of you.
I watched the interview on the "Today Show" and one of the last questions went something like " John, you have security protection? " And John said " Oh, yes." That's the first thing I would get, if I won it big in the lottery. One more thing, I noticed after John Robinson was showing that $500 million+ winning Powerball ticket in his hand, putting it in his left front pants pocket! Wow. Another thing, when the reporters were asking questions to the Robinson's, they never ask the question " John, you did sign that winning ticket,right? " Sound like a dumb question but in all that excitement of winning, you never know. I'll bet the Robinson's got a security protection force you would never believe, waiting to pounce on anybody who would come near their family!, lol.
When he pulled out the ticket, it can be seen that it was signed.
I don't see anything wrong in this. It's their money and decision to do what they want to do with their way they claim their prize or exposing they are the winners on national television. If it were me, I probably would have did the press conference or news interview to get it OVER with because the news media will dig into their personal lives and stalk the winners to get the exclusive interview. BETTER TO GET IT OVER WITH and spin the story the way you want before the media does, plus now the big focus is on the Florida and Cali winner.
The issue is not that they went to the Today Show. The issue is that they went to the Today Show FIRST, before going to the Tennessee Lottery HQ.
It is completely illogical.
It's like me having a cavity and instead of going to the Dentist I go to a Beauty Salon first .
The commentaries on here have nothing to do with envy
I agree very much. They went the wrong route and I am afraid it WILL bite them in the a$$. Tennessee has a privacy policy and should have took it.
I just researched this and there is a Cynthia Stafford in WV and FL that has filed bankruptcy. Not sure if we are talking about the same Cynthia.
Cynthia Stafford from Beverly Hills, California. Past lottery winner of $112,000,000.00 She did good with her money but she failed at budgeting.
Of course, I am envious and jealous. I feel sad that I did not win. But I think that I have comments to make that could help future lottery winner here at Lottery Post.
If you see someone who is about to step in front of a truck do you remain silent? or try to help?
It's possible why they decided to come forward first and the playing "Ma and Pa Kettle" may have been an act. Appearing on the Today Show before validating the ticket was strange, especially pulling the folded ticket out of his shirt pocket, but that could be part of the act. We probably know more about Gloria Mackenzie than these winners.
Im with you Music. I was disappointed I was not one of the winners, am envious and a tad jealous, ok, ok a lot jealous. I was imagining myself having all 6 numbers, now I am imagining what it must be like getting all things lined up to collect.
This sounds like I am an idiot but I just feel one of these days, lol. I am sure people I talk to are sick of hearing me, including my LP friends hahahaha.
I look at the drawings for the games I play and when I think I made an agreement to a three way split, these jackpots arent enough for my dreams lol. Yes, they will build again, I have no tickets so have to watch them and decide when to join in again.
Good luck.
You would be pretty safe especially if you took a million to build them a huge barn, church, buy a 100 cows, horses & buggies.
Shoot, they would never give you up to the media. What a great deal that would be. Love it!
lejardin, Thank You. I am also changing my lottery playing. I think that I can wait till the jackpots for Mega Millions and Power Ball reach $150 - $200 million before I play.
Most of us here at LP know the odds but when the jackpot breaks records then we all hope that it will be one of our tickets that wins.
I am dissolving any agreements, promises, pledges that I made for this past PB run. I start clean for another record breaker.
We are here at LP to commiserate with one another after a major win. And definitely celebrate when one of us wins.
Im glad they went public to get the fame they deserve! If they still want to work, save, and not be bothered much they should move to Salt Lake City, Utah where those kind of things are appreciated. When Inflation ravages this country and food shortages happen because of wrong headed voting for the past 100 years it might be the safest place to live. The mormons are savers. To many jealous athiests, southern baptists, and presbyterians here complaining. The bible teaches you to not hate people who have money and save.
One way to have alot of fun without spending any of that lottery money would be to have about 1000 Christmas cards printed up with a santa claus on the front holding a sign that says: " Have a very billion dollar Christmas!"
Sent every enemy and jealous person you know one every year at Christmas with a dollar bill inside. I can think of about 30 posters here id send one to each year because of their envy disease. Just saying! Want to quess who is on the list? What would your list look like!
Would any of that constitute mental anquish?
Congrats to the winners!
This is why you need a lawyer who specializes in the right field. The local bankruptcy/divorce lawyer just doesn't have the right experience to make good decisions about sudden wealth.
Fortunately, the State Of California's Lottery Commission has help at www.calottery.com You can find the Winners Handbook by moving the cursor to Win and then you will see the Winners Handbook listing. It is located on the top left handside of the page. "I've Won Now What" it is easy to locate.
Yea. this might be why all of this happened. An attorney who really knows nothing about how to handle this, giving advise and getting paid for it.
And that's why I said "most of the comments" and not "all". Most of your comments are reasonable.
"If you see someone who is about to step in front of a truck do you remain silent? or try to help?"
As I said in my last post, it's possibly an act hoping much more attention will be paid to one of both of the other winners. Each news agency that reported a record jackpot had "expert opinions" on what jackpot winners should do, but from what I read it wasn't much different than we read on LP.
It might take up to six months or more to get things setup and maybe years before the winners understand their new wealth. I see lots of LP members who never won a jackpot being very critical of what an actual winner does. IMO, it wasn't a good idea to have the winning ticket in his pocket (if that was actual ticket) on the Today Show before having it validated, but there were no problems.
So if she failed at budgeting and filed for bankruptcy, how did she do "good" with her money?
She gave away $1 million....a drop in the bucket compared to the original prize and most likely that was by the advice of her accountant.
Not downplaying her donation but I have known many with far less who have given away far more.
The bottom line is she blew her money on stupid stuff and fell into the same trap as many other lottery winners before her.
These people were STUPID to go public in the manner that they did, and their ego-centric attorney [Joe Townsend] and his publicity hungry daughter Eileen Townsend, who is a Memphis Art Scene reporter [Duh !!], should be slapped and fired for giving such BAD ADVICE !!! Pay the attorney ASAP and kick him to the curb, b/c he probably intends to milk them dry of their MONEY $$$ in any clever manner that he can figure out how to !!! The attorney, Joe Townsend, specializes in BANKRUPTCY and DIVORCE, which is exactly what John and Lisa Robinson will need, eventually !!!
Cynthia gave her children and step children from her brother who was killed by a drunk driver, a good start in life. Some may not be eighteen yet. She might have set up trusts for them.
I agree that the one million dollar donation to the Geffen play house was ridiculous. Plus the cars. And she even looked at airplanes.
She might have continued her support for UNICEF.